Will Peck, the head of digital asset at WisdomTree joins the show. In this episode we discuss:

• Will’s path to WisdomTree and how the firm began researching digital assets
• How WisdomTree is approaching exchange traded products in the public blockchain ecosystem
• Views on the Bitcoin futures ETF products vs. the proposed spot products
• Views on the various Bitcoin ETF proposals and the prospects of an SEC approval in 2022
• Views on tokenization of investment products
• How ‘legacy’ asset management firms will face increased competition from digital asset early adopters

To learn more about WisdomTree visit their website.

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Matt and Nic return for a busy week of deals and news. In this episode: 

• We cover the witness selection for the House energy hearing on Bitcoin mining
• The SEC goes to war with its employee union
• The SEC rejects the Skybridge Bitcoin ETF proposal
• GBTC is trading at a 30% discount
• Walmart is building its own metaverse
• Twitter rolls out NFT avis
• Crypto dot com’s ad copy
• We correct the record on Ari Juels’ Congresional testimony on PoW

Content mentioned in this episode: 

• Ari Juels’ congressional testimony
• The House Energy Committee’s memo on Bitcoin mining 
• The House Hearing ‘Cleaning up Cryptocurrency’

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In this latest installment of the mining miniseries, Iris Energy cofounder and co-CEO Daniel Roberts joins us to talk through their approach to mining. In this episode: 

• How Dan came to work in mining
• Backgrounds of the Iris executive team
• Which thinkers influenced Dan in his Bitcoin journey
• Why Iris focuses on sustainable energy and on only entering energy markets where they will not drive prices up for households
• How Iris chooses geographies to operate
• How Iris found abundant underutilized power in British Columbia
• Why Iris’ entry to British Columbia actually drives down energy prices for regular households
• Why Bitcoin mining has better location agnosticism than aluminum smelting or hydrogen production
• How Bitcoin miners are more flexible loads than other datacenters
• How Iris is geographically diversified in Canada, Texas, and Australia, and why geographic diversification is so important
• How flexibility from Bitcoin mining replaces peaker plants burning fossil fuels
• Why the oversupply of power is an issue for many power markets
• Are Western miners being sufficiently responsible in finding low carbon energy sources
• How Dan thinks about political risk at the state level
• Can the world accommodate Bitcoin’s power consumption growth if the price goes up tenfold?
• What plateauing efficiency gains for ASICs means for Iris
• Why Iris doesn’t see itself as a pseudo Bitcoin ETF and does not seek to hold Bitcoin on its balance sheet

Sponsor notes:

• Compass Mining is the world’s first and largest online marketplace for bitcoin mining hardware, hosting, and ASIC reselling. Start mining your own bitcoin by visiting compassmining.io

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Chris King, Founder & CEO of Eaglebrook Advisors, a digital assets SMA platform, join the show. In this episode, we discuss:

• Eaglebrook’s Series A announcement
• Chris’ path into the digital assets space and the origins of Eaglebrook Advisors
• Crypto penetration in the RIA and asset management space
• Inflection points in the market over the last couple years that have put a spotlight on solutions for RIAs and asset managers
• Key parts of the SMA solution that offer advantages for end clients
• Eaglebrook’s new product launches in 2022

To learn more about Eaglebrook visit their website.

Sponsor notes:

• Compass Mining is the world’s first and largest online marketplace for bitcoin mining hardware, hosting, and ASIC reselling. Start mining your own bitcoin by visiting compassmining.io

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Matt and Nic return for more deals and news of the week. In this episode: 

• Matt loses the podcast audio
• New Turkey drama
• Rep Emmer introduces a bill banning a retail focused CBDC
• Nic releases a song with Gramatik
• The story behind the Scribbler song
• We investigate Fan Controlled Football
• Paypal looks to build a stablecoin
• Several banks issue the USDF stablecoin
• Crypto-dollarization in Turkey
• Why dollarization fails
• Jack Dorsey starts a Bitcoin developer legal defense fund 
• Justin Sun is a Grenadan diplomat 

Content mentioned

• Nic’s song with Gramatik, Just a Scribbler
• WSJ, Turks Pile Into Bitcoin and Tether to Escape Plunging Lira

Sponsor notes: 

• Fireblocks is an enterprise-grade platform delivering a secure infrastructure for moving, storing, and issuing digital assets. Learn more at fireblocks.com
• Corporations and institutions can allocate cash into Circle Yield to gain crypto lending exposure and earn superior returns compared to traditional markets. It’s secured, overcollateralized and built on the leading dollar digital currency. Visit circle.com/yield to book a meeting

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House Representative Tom Emmer (R-MN) joins the show to share thoughts on his crypto policy agenda for 2022, as well as his views on inflation, MMT, stablecoins, and CBDCs. In this episode: 

• How Rep. Emmer came to be interested in public blockchains
• Rep. Emmer’s interest in Austrian economics
• How Rep. Emmer stays up to date with the industry
• Are MMTers the establishment or an outsider group?
• Is Washington dominated by covert MMT ideology?
• Is fiscal conservatism dead in Washington?
• Why Rep. Emmer voted for the CARES act any regrets he has
• How the massive injection of cash in the last two years warped our economy
• Is inflation driven by fiscal spending or corporate greed?
• Is crypto inherently a partisan issue?
• Rep Emmer’s concerns about a CBDC
• Why the US should not take cues from China
• Why CBDCs are not akin to physical cash
• Why insisting that stablecoins need bank charters is deeply ironic
• Problems with the Presidential Working Group’s guidance on stablecoins
• Is crypto favorable or hostile to American interests?
• What are Rep Emmer’s colleagues’ residual objections to crypto?
• The purpose of Emmer’s Securities Clarity Act
• Will the midterms alter Congress’ approach to the crypto industry?

Useful links: 

• Support the Emmer 2022 reelection campaign (crypto donations accepted) 
• Follow Rep. Emmer on Twitter
• Emmer’s cosponsored Securities Clarities Act (press release)
• The Keep Innovation in America Act (press release)
• About the Blockchain Caucus

Sponsor notes:

• Compass Mining is the world’s first and largest online marketplace for bitcoin mining hardware, hosting, and ASIC reselling. Start mining your own bitcoin by visiting compassmining.io

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Matt and Nic return for more news and deals of the week. In this episode: 

• Everything is selling off
• Is the US losing its status as global reserve?
• We announce our policy miniseries
• Sen. Lummis will reportedly propose a crypto bill
• Opensea raising $300m at a $13b valuation
• Illicit activity in 2021 was only 0.15% of total crypto volume
• The Boston Fed CBDC pilot program rumbles on
• Kazakhstan turns off the internet, and dims Bitcoin hashrate by 12%
• NY State reproposes their bill to ban mining in the state
• The National Credit Union Administration looks to ratify usage of crypto for its members
• The House Energy and Commerce committee will hold a hearing on PoW
• A group of environmentalist organizations sends a letter regarding PoW to congress

Content mentioned: 

• National Credit Union Administration, Relationships with Third Parties that Provide Services Related to Digital Assets
• Letter to Congress from environmentalist groups regarding PoW

Sponsor notes:

• Corporations and institutions can allocate cash into Circle Yield to gain crypto lending exposure and earn superior returns compared to traditional markets. It’s secured, overcollateralized and built on the leading dollar digital currency. Visit circle.com/yield to book a meeting

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Luxor COO and CPO Ethan Vera and Guzman Pintos join the show to talk about their relaunched data product, Hashrate Index and other trends in mining. In this episode: 

• The history of the firm
• Why Luxor created the hashrate index
• How Luxor gathers data on ASIC pricing and creates their time series charts
• ASIC pricing dynamics
• Are sell side analysts correctly pricing ASICs on the balance sheets of public miners?
• Why different efficiencies of miners have traded differently in the last 2 months
• How constraints on rack space affect the demand for older ASICs
• Why so many ASICs can’t leave China
• Is there still residual black market mining in China?
• Kazakhstan’s under-reported mining crackdown
• Are ASIC development cycles slowing?
• Are miners still front-running their clients with prop mining?
• Are Bitcoin miners trying to acquire Bitcoin or do they want to hedge their exposure
• Are derivatives becoming more popular among miners?
• The maturation of the Bitcoin mining derivatives market
• Why prior hashrate derivatives haven’t worked
• Multiple based analysis for public miners
• Why there is a ‘public market arbitrage’ for miners
• Why incentives exist for public miners to be highly acquisitive
• Do miners care about long term fee budget?

Sponsor notes:

• Compass Mining is the world’s first and largest online marketplace for bitcoin mining hardware, hosting, and ASIC reselling. Start mining your own bitcoin by visiting compassmining.io

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Nic and Matt return for the last episode of 2021. In this episode: 

• Someone makes an unauthorized Nic NFT
• Microstrategy buys more BTC
• Blake Masters sells a political NFT
• Why do gamers and artists hate NFTs?
• We look back at our 2021 crystal ball predictions
• Best predictions of 2021
• Our outlook for crypto policy in 2022
• Our favorite OTB episodes of the year
• We look back at the Token Daily 2019 crystal ball predictions
• What it’s like to be in crypto for an entire decade
• Midterm implications for the crypto industry
• Our favorite OTB episodes of 2021

Content mentioned:

• Tokendaily, 2021 Crystal Ball 

Sponsor notes: 

• Corporations and institutions can allocate cash into Circle Yield to gain crypto lending exposure and earn superior returns compared to traditional markets. It’s secured, overcollateralized and built on the leading dollar digital currency. Visit circle.com/yield to book a meeting
• Compass Mining is the world’s first and largest online marketplace for bitcoin mining hardware, hosting, and ASIC reselling. Start mining your own bitcoin by visiting compassmining.io

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Gabe Frank and Robert Masiello, the founders of Arcade, a financial services platform for NFTs join the show. In this episode we discuss:

• Gabe and Robert’s origin stories in the crypto industry and the path that led them to founded Arcade
• The similarities in the market structures for bitcoin in the early years and NFTs today
• The role of MPC custody in the crypto markets
• How they think about the various L1 chains that will host NFTs
• The OTC trading landscape for NFTs
• Peer to peer vs. peer to pool NFT lending models
• How the lending market will evolve with great data / pricing functionality
• The product roadmap for Arcade over the next year

To learn more about Arcade visit their website.

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• This episode is brought to you by Withum, a top 25 accounting firm with a cutting-edge Digital Currency and Blockchain Technology practice. To learn more, visit  withum.com/crypto
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Matt and Nic return for a festive Christmas eve roundup. In this episode: 

• Reevaluating our intro song
• Jack Dorsey’s web3 beef
• What’s on our Christmas list
• Is PoW inherently high-fee?
• We steelman the Jack Dorsey and the pro web3 arguments
• Is there a paradox in web3?
• We advance a model of tapered token issuance for web3
• The downsides of token issuance to early adopters
• Is Liz Warren right about corporate greed causing inflation?
• Radioshake releases a defi token
• Is Bitcoin ownership too concentrated?
• Bitcoin is dispersing while equities are concentrating
• Will there be a revolt among the staffers at the SEC?

Content mentioned: 

• Nic Carter and Lucas Nuzzi in Bitcoin Magazine, Bitcoin’s Proof of Work is Well Worth its Fees
• Paul Vigna in WSJ, Bitcoin’s ‘One Percent’ Controls Lion’s Share of the Cryptocurrency’s Wealth

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Anders Larson, head of strategic finance at U.S. Bitcoin Corp, joins us to talk about how miners make decisions and allocate capital. In this episode: 

• The Wharton class of 2018
• Are Bitcoin miners clogging up the chip supply chain?
• Why Bitcoin miners are ‘tier 2’ customers at foundries
• The scale of US BTC operations in terms of hashrate
• Why US BTC has been so quiet historically
• How US BTC targets renewable energy
• Which renewables are easiest to find
• Is there any truth to the story of Bitcoin improving the economics of renewables?
• Why ASIC depreciation is slowing, and how that affects the viability of different energy sources
• The relationship between Bitcoin’s carbon intensity and ASIC depreciation period
• Can ASICs last for 5 years?
• How does US BTC think about uptime on their units?
• Why lower uptime means that you have cheaper power due to demand response
• How US BTC thinks about hashrate growth and why they are more conservative than their competitors
• Why Chinese hashrate is not completely eliminated
• The state of affairs in Kazakhstan
• How Anders thinks about political risk in mining
• How policy logic informs selective mining bans and mining subsidies
• How Anders sees miners vertically integrating with energy firms
• How Anders thinks about proposed state bitcoin mining bans in places like NY
• Why mining bans in the West are often counterproductive
• The relationship between energy consumption and civilizational progress
• How Anders thinks about the energy cost debate
• Whether the CBECI hashrate distribution estimates are reliable
• Why the US having a large share of hashrate isn’t something to be concerned about
• How mining could become a states rights issue
• Does US BTC project fee growth in their models?

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• Compass Mining is the world’s first and largest online marketplace for bitcoin mining hardware, hosting, and ASIC reselling. Start mining your own bitcoin by visiting compassmining.io
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Matt and Nic return for another week of news and deals. In this episode: 

• A glitch in the CoinMarketCap data feed causes disturbances in the crypto industry 
• AscendEX is  hacked last week to the tune of $77 million
• Coinbase urges the SEC to approve NYSE Arca’s application to convert the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust into an exchange-traded fund 
• Bitwise launches a blue-chip NFT fund
• A bipartisan group of Senators write a letter to Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen regarding the crypto provisions in the infra bill
• The Myanmar government in exile official adopts Tether, while the Junta government de-dollarizes 
• Matt takes the giving pledge
• The Open Markets Institute spreads a lot of FUD
• Can the boys lift a 230 pound tungsten cube? 

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• This episode supported by Public.com. Start investing with as little as $1 and get a free slice of stock up to $50 when you join Public.com today. Visit public.com/onthebrink to download the app and sign up.

• Corporations and institutions can allocate cash into Circle Yield to gain crypto lending exposure and earn superior returns compared to traditional markets. It’s secured, overcollateralized and built on the leading dollar digital currency. Visit circle.com/yield to book a meeting

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Galaxy Digital Mining Associate Brandon Bailey and Research Associate Karim Helmy join the show to cover a new accounting methodology for Bitcoin miners. In this episode: 

• Galaxy’s new miner margins accounting methodology
• Brandon and Karim origin stories in mining
• How the randomness-based miner fingerprinting works
• How Karim thinks about miner depreciation schedules
• Why the Bitcoin e-waste paper understates the expected lifetime of Bitcoin ASICs
• S9s are still a quarter of the Bitcoin network
• Why Karim and Brandon created the new accounting framework
• The differences between marginal, direct, and total cost of production for BTC miners
• Does the sell side capably cover Bitcoin miners?
• What you would expect to see for marginal and total cost of production for established Bitcoin miners
• Why miners focus on marginal cost rather than total in their storytelling
• Major bottlenecks preventing the addition of new hardware
• Why hashrate may not converge to price in the near term
• Why the chip shortage advantages incumbents in Bitcoin mining
• Why Kazakhstan is scaling back their Bitcoin mining
• Why mining manufacturers do not get priority access to the best foundry capacity
• Why established miners will be able to mine Bitcoin at favorable rates for the near and medium term
• Why of the accounting identities Galaxy would prioritize when evaluating public mining companies
• How Galaxy arrived at a 3 year depreciation period for the average mining unit
• What advice Brandon and Karim would give you public market analysts evaluating mining companies

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Alex Wilson, co-founder and CEO of The Giving Block joins the show. In this episode we discuss:

• Alex’s path in the blockchain space, from consulting to founding The Giving Block
• The landscape of charitable giving, and how the company is assisting charitable organizations
• The pain points that charities face when accepting donations
• Perspectives from the donor’s perspective and why donating cryptocurrency is so compelling
• How the company came to launch its campaigns

To learn more about The Giving Block visit their website or follow the company on Twitter.

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• This episode supported by Public.com. Start investing with as little as $1 and get a free slice of stock up to $50 when you join Public.com today. Visit public.com/onthebrink to download the app and sign up.
• This episode is brought to you by Withum, a top 25 accounting firm with a cutting-edge Digital Currency and Blockchain Technology practice. To learn more, visit  withum.com/crypto

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Matt and Nic return for deals and news of the week. In this episode: 

• Are cubes a suitable holiday gift?
• Best crypto Xmas gifts
• Bitcoin purchases we regret
• The House Financial Services committee holds a hearing
• Our Congressional hearing MVP
• Brian Brooks’ evolution
• SBF kicks off shoegate
• Takeaways from the House hearing
• EOS holders reject a payment to Block One
• Block One’s weird pivot to Bitcoin
• Greyscale says 26% of American adults own Bitcoin
• Governance difficulties in Dfinity
• Will SWIFT survive American sanctions on Russia
• Impenetrable Sushiswap drama
• Those landfill Bitcoins are still lost

Content mentioned: 

• Brian Brooks’ testimony before the House Financial Services Committee
• The Economist, The Explosion in Stablecoins Revives a Debate around ‘Free Banking’
• WSJ, Crypto, NFTs and Tungsten Cubes: A Guide to Giving Cash in 2021

Sponsor notes: 

• This episode supported by Public.com. Start investing with as little as $1 and get a free slice of stock up to $50 when you join Public.com today. Visit public.com/onthebrink to download the app and sign up.

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Matt Cutler, the founder and CEO of Blocknative joins the show. In this episode we discuss:

• Matt’s entrepreneurial history and path to founding Blocknative
• How he came to see blockchain transaction data as a big opportunity for his company
• How blockchain mempools work and why they are important
• The types of customers that are monitoring blockchain network data and how this data is actionable
• Matt’s views on blockchain scalability across L1s and Ethereum L2s
• What is on the horizon for Blocknative

To learn more about Blocknative visit their website.

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• This episode supported by Public.com. Start investing with as little as $1 and get a free slice of stock up to $50 when you join Public.com today. Visit public.com/onthebrink to download the app and sign up.
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Matt and Nic return for deals and news. In this episode: 

• Art Basel is now a crypto event
• Is the crypto industry culturally relevant?
• Jack Dorsey leaves Twitter
• Will Twitter become more censored
• Square renames itself Block
• Celcius CFO is arrested
• Fidelity launches a Bitcoin ETF in Canada
• David Marcus is leaving Facebook
• Regulatory projections from Cowen
• BadgerDAO hacked

Content mentioned: 

• Cowen’s analysis of the regulatory headwinds in crypto

Sponsor notes: 

• This show supported by Coinbase Prime, an integrated solution that provides advanced multi-venue trading, custody, and prime services for institutions. For more information see coinbase.com/prime

• Corporations and institutions can allocate cash into Circle Yield to gain crypto lending exposure and earn superior returns compared to traditional markets. It’s secured, overcollateralized and built on the leading dollar digital currency. Visit circle.com/yield to book a meeting

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Matt and Nic return for another week of news and deals. In this episode: 

• Coinbase acquires Breadwallet
• El Salvador’s Bitcoin City
• Is El Salvador’s Bitcoin Bond worth buying?
• New merch on the website
• Midwest tungsten releases a new shape
• Is India banning crypto again?
• Miners coming back online in China
• The OCC, FDIC, and Fed will release cryptoasset guidance in 2022
• Saule Omarova’s nomination to run the OCC has fallen through
• Jerome Powell will keep helming the Fed
• Elizabeth Warren blames inflation on Big Poultry
• ConstitutionDAO crashes and burns
• Insider trading doesn’t just apply to securities
• Who we are thankful for

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• This show supported by Coinbase Prime, an integrated solution that provides advanced multi-venue trading, custody, and prime services for institutions. For more information see coinbase.com/prime

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We sit down with James McGinniss, CEO and Cofounder of David Energy to talk about Bitcoin’s role in the energy transition and how Bitcoin mining is a useful source of flexible load for increasingly renewable grids. In this episode: 

• The fundamental change happening in the US grid today
• What distributed energy resources are and why they are important
• Why DERs are catching on in California
• Why bitcoin allows load to move to supply
• Why better metering improves the prospects for demand response
• How demand response works nationwide
• Why there’s a fundamental tradeoff between uptime and power prices
• Why Bitcoin is the best demand response resource
• The prospects for other location agnostic load resources
• Do better batteries obsolete Bitcoin mining as a grid balancer?
• How David Energy is working with Bitcoin miners
• Why Bitcoin miners should trade mining uptime for cheaper power
• Are grid operators designing programs for bitcoin miners?
• Why there’s a longer tail of energy assets that miners should take advantage of

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• This episode supported by Public.com. Start investing with as little as $1 and get a free slice of stock up to $50 when you join Public.com today. Visit public.com/onthebrink to download the app and sign up.
• This episode is brought to you by Withum, a top 25 accounting firm with a cutting-edge Digital Currency and Blockchain Technology practice. To learn more, visit  withum.com/crypto.

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